For this installment of our interview series “A Pizz With..” we were able to sit down with Chicago native, Blake Saint David. From discussing their introduction to music as well as what makes their sound unique, we hope you enjoy the read. Check it out below.
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For our audience that doesn’t know, who is Blake Saint David? How would you describe your music to people who have yet to listen? You used to go by larbear and flowerboy, and now you’re Blake Saint David. Could you explain the name changes to us? Were they reflecting a change in your music or creative direction?
Blake Saint David just sounded right to me. Blake is gender neutral, and it fits the moodiness of my music. I call myself a non binary internet superstar because I don’t perform a lot and people on the Internet make me feel loved. I’d say my music is pop music for people who feel alone and scared of growing up, because I am.
That’s definitely something I’m sure a lot of listeners can relate to. Fill me more on where you grew up and your upbringing. Are there anything about those factors of your life that lead you to feel these ways?
I grew up everywhere. I’m from the south side of Chicago but for one year I lived in Forest Park Il, a suburb. It changed my life, that was the year I attempted suicide but I discovered my love for film-making that year. My parents aren’t really in my life either. I’m literally a product of the internet.
I feel like a lot of different creative ventures arise to help with issues like that for a lot of different artists. We’ve talked to many that had similar stories as well. What was your experience with film-making like? What was it about it that made you fall in love with it in the first place?
Spider-Man 2 was the movie that got me into filmmaking. I loved it so much that I wanted to see what was put into it to make it the great film it is. And once I learned how to, I started making my own movies.
What did you love about it so much? Was it the cinematography, plot line, or anything elements like that? How’d that end up influencing your first projects? Describe some of them for us.
It was the score and the writing. My first song on SoundCloud right now is a song about Spiderman from Peter Parker’s point of view. Spider-Man shaped all avenues of art for me. I love Spiderman and it made me love music.
Before we getting into your music what we’re the film projects you were doing? Did you start those prior to music or did you start them around the same time?
Way before music. Like since I was 10, I used to score my own films and they were all written by me. I didn’t have friends so I used to play every role.
Is scoring your films eventually what got you into music? What were your first tracks like and how you say your style changed by now?
It is! I used to make string heavy instrumentals with no drums. I think the use of string instruments has become my motif. I love them.
One of the catchiest tunes that struck out to me from you was “Don’t Waste My Time” feat. Family Reunion. How’d that track come about? It is definitely one of the tracks that showcase versatility.
It was originally supposed to be a song with me Victor and Jackie, we were just fucking around at Victor’s house when we came up with it. Jackie said she wanted a pop song so that’s what we made! We just had fun until we got something that sounded good.
It really did have a pop vibe to it and definitely resonated with your audience. Talk to me about “Fame“. This is the newest record you’ve dropped but definitely much different from “Don’t Waste My Time.” The experimental style is very noticeable.
Yeah I worked an entire night on it. I had a bad day, and I had just started dating this girl (who ghosted me) and I wanted to make a hard hitting love song. It was heavily inspired by “Glory” by Childish Gambino.
Where did the experimental style and mixing come from? Was it from any of your other influences besides Gambino?
Choker, he’s an artist from Michigan who is my biggest inspiration. His music just changed my life and it made rethink how I make music. His music is unstructured, and it still sounds amazing. For example , his song el dorado is just 5 hooks.
I’ve noticed with a lot of your songs of produced by yourself. What leads you to making your own beats instead of going out and working with other producers? Looking at songs like “Don’t Waste My Time” that was produced by VICTOR and some of your other singles, which producers do you like to work with?
I’m poor haha I can’t afford other beats, and I want all the credit so people can know how hard I work. I really only work with Victor. Nobody else wants to work with me haha. I work with my friends Victor and Cloudboy.
You’ve contributed to some dope projects such as the Sonny & Friends EP. Not to mention on “Existentialism Vol 2.” as well as the DatPizz Fall Single Series. What was it like working on those projects?
Very fun. It’s always fun working on music, and when I’m apart of something it makes me feel better about my art, like I matter.
To let our audiences know we do also have a Blake Saint David EP produced by shrimp and executive produced by 5kirr and LOTTABRIXX. How was it like working on that project? What was the energy like when you were making this EP?
Really exciting I was up and I didn’t sleep. 5kirr made me stay up all night off Adderall to get it done. But it wasn’t straight business, like I was around genuine energy, and I had a genuinely good time making it.
What other ventures are you working on besides music? Is film-making something you’re still pursuing. I’ve also heard of your art collective 1837. Can you talk me to about that as well?
1837 doesn’t exist it got out of hand really fast and I was stressed haha. I’m working on a web series called Temporary. It’s about growing up and there are going to be 6 episodes. I’m only in one of the episodes.
What was your collective “1837”? What led to the project not lifting off?
I just made it because I wanted friends but it became more than that and I was stressed.
Let’s go back to your roots. You said you were constantly moving and let us know a lot more about your early years. How has that affected your music, have you used it to almost be therapeutic for yourself?
My parents weren’t around much due to drugs and stuff I don’t wanna talk about, but yes it’s affected my music taste, especially that year I was in the suburbs. I was putting a lot into music. In 2013 I found PC music and that changed the way I made music. That’s the reason I started rapping even though it’s weird pop music.
It’s definitely some of the most experimental and versatile music I’ve seen, I think that’s why your audience is receptive to it. Are there any projects we can expect to see from you soon?
My web series is coming with a soundtrack, and I’m working on a clothing line to drop next month.
Any other announcements you want to make or any shoutouts you want to give as we near the close this interview?
I don’t think so, but I think I should tell everyone I’m non binary.
When did you decide on being gender neutral if you don’t mind me asking? What led up to that decision?
Recently, I just realized that gender is a scam and I don’t conform to binary genders.
I must say it’s very forward of you to say that in this interview and publicly. Do you feel that the culture of the underground is not as progressive as it should be in regards to ideas such as gender neutrality and the LGTBQ movement?
Yeah I do, I think there should be more queer people apart of the scene.
Well with artists like yourself coming out and expressing themselves, hopefully we can see that trend start to rise in the underground scene. There are underground scenes in New York City from example that are embracing artists from the LGTBQ community and other underrepresented groups such as women as well. Have you noticed any artists trying to break the barrier?
No I haven’t and that sucks, but it’s awesome to see that there are certain people that are breaking the barrier.
Hopefully we can see that change be more apparent in the underground scenes and hopefully we can see it spread.
Yeah most definitely!
Blake Saint David, it was a pleasure talking to and having you sit down with us to discuss all these issues at length. Any last words to our audience before we end this?
Oh I’m working on a country album with my friend Xander. We’ve been listening to a lot of country and we’re almost done with the album. We’re coordinating the single release and the video release right now.